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Post by Chrisnstar on Sept 4, 2006 13:57:16 GMT -5
I think they've gotten a lot sneakier about it, Coyote.
chris
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Post by dianei on Sept 4, 2006 14:57:52 GMT -5
Perhaps the big lick will go the way of bear-baiting......one can only hope. The IL. State Fair no longer allows big lick classes. TWs are shown, but only plantation or flat shoes are allowed. If there was no venue to show big lick, it would go the way of the dodo bird. *sigh* Here's my dream TW......  |
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Post by Newfygirl on Sept 4, 2006 15:03:17 GMT -5
Diean - wow! That is a really nice looking TWH. I've never seen one like that! that horse almost looks Araby! Its much more beautiful than the shoe-box headed, freakish looking thing in the first picture. That shoe-box headed thing is probably a national champion or something too! ACK!
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Post by Marci on Sept 4, 2006 15:20:44 GMT -5
Doesn't he stand in the northwest too? Hmm....
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Post by Lindanshadow on Sept 4, 2006 15:21:34 GMT -5
As an owner of 2 TWH's I am ashamed that someone would do that to a horse! I think it is horrible and it is about time that they did something about it!!!
Linda H.
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Post by dianei on Sept 4, 2006 15:40:12 GMT -5
Isn't he gorgeous???? Yup, he stands near Portland, OR. www.mccurdynorthwest.com/I've also got my eye on a breeder here in WI (don't ask me their name, I....uh....*put it in a safe place*). Anyway, they had a drop dead gorgeous blue roan TW filly at last year's Midwest Fair. They don't show, just produce good trail horses...... The good ones are out there....you just have to keep your eyes open.....LOL.... |
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Post by AmberC on Sept 4, 2006 18:28:58 GMT -5
I've ridden a couple nice TWH and I just don't know why anyone would think that's soemthing you could improve upon, in any way! Smooth, fast, can do it about forever without stopping. I don't know what more you can really ask for in a horse. I've seen the pictures of hte "big lick" but have never seen it in person on even on tape so I don't know what it looks like or anything like that, but I just don't know why you'd even want a horse to do that.
I somehow have the impression that even if the horse is not sored, it still has some sort of abuse done to get it to do that? I know they do the pads and chains, but geeze if you have to do all that to make a horse move a certain way, that should tell the *trainer* that it's not natural and shouldn't be done. We do enough "unnatural" things with our horses, by riding them, jumping them, etc, to go messing with thier gaits too.
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Post by denise on Sept 5, 2006 10:34:10 GMT -5
The truly sad part is that a lot of the TWH trainers are leaving the TWH breed and getting into the RMH/KMH or Mountain horses in general as there is still good money to be made with these horses. There is a trainer in the PNW that was banned from the TWH association because of what she did to the TWH and she is now a big trainer at a local breeding farm. Why the owners would allow her near their horses I will never know. She also shows in the International Show in KY for years.
The RMH association has always been adament about the RMH horses gaiting without artificial means but now you see them with extremely long toes, heavier than normal shoes, etc. Makes me angry and, of course, they are gaining control of the associations so the long time breeders/advocates are being pushed out. They are trying to make the breed look like fine boned thoroughbreds instead of the stout, sweet horses they are supposed to be.
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Post by Chrisnstar on Sept 5, 2006 11:55:37 GMT -5
This is from another list from someone who was at the show!
An interesting side note that went missed by many:
There were two seperate incidents in which horses that had passed
inspection were led into the ring only to fall over as if they were
dead.
No kidding! One was in a harness class and the other in a big lick
class.
The harness horse laid there for about 10 minutes not moving. The
organ
player kept playing music and the other competitors lined up along the
far
side and waited. After a while the horse popped right up like nothing
happened. In the case of the big lick horse, after laying on the
ground
for a while he got back up, finished the competition and collected a
ribbon!! Can anyone say "drug test"??
Things that make you go hhhmmmmm.......
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2006 12:20:37 GMT -5
I hope this starts a wave of change, but I doubt it. They have been trying to stop this for a long time, and it seems to just get worse. I know of no people (save perhaps the culprits themselves) who do not know this is a huge problem with this breed. It is so insanely out of hand. Not just the soring, but those built up pads! Women have trouble when they wear high heels too much, imagine the unsoundness this creates in these horses, if they happen to be able to survive their show career. The thing that made me maddest about the article is that it said several times that there needed to be protection for the officials there from the TWH 'enthusiasts'. I'm sorry, if you support soring, you are not an enthusiast of the horse, you are a cold-hearted person who sees these horses as machines, and not living, feeling beings. To call them 'breed enthusiasts' slaps every REAL breed enthusiast in the face.
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Post by Chrisnstar on Sept 5, 2006 12:39:44 GMT -5
there have been numerous reports of horses becoming seriously even fatally injured trying to move in those stupid stacked shoes. That alone is insanity, but adding the chemical soring too is simply beyond my comprehension.
chris
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Post by denise on Sept 5, 2006 13:12:35 GMT -5
I remember years ago someone telling me that show TWH are never turned out to pasture because they would hurt themselves to have "horse" time. Sad.
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Post by Marci on Sept 5, 2006 15:25:31 GMT -5
This is from another list from someone who was at the show! An interesting side note that went missed by many: There were two seperate incidents in which horses that had passed inspection were led into the ring only to fall over as if they were dead. No kidding! One was in a harness class and the other in a big lick class. The harness horse laid there for about 10 minutes not moving. The organ player kept playing music and the other competitors lined up along the far side and waited. After a while the horse popped right up like nothing happened. In the case of the big lick horse, after laying on the ground for a while he got back up, finished the competition and collected a ribbon!! Can anyone say "drug test"?? Things that make you go hhhmmmmm.......  OMG |
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Post by Pat B on Sept 5, 2006 15:42:11 GMT -5
What gets me even more is that everyone just sat there and waited it out??????? Like maybe they're ACCOSTUMED to seeing this sort of thing happen???????
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Post by Chrisnstar on Sept 5, 2006 15:53:38 GMT -5
Either in so much pain or so over medicated! Either way, it's criminal. We have animal abuse laws on the books. And PatB, can you imagine being so numbed as a society we can watch this sort of thing. Gadzooks!
chris
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