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Post by Jenni on Jan 20, 2016 15:21:21 GMT -5
Pregnant horses really pretty much take care of themselves. Other than the costs associated with preg check I have never had any extra expense due to the mare being bred. I hope that you can at least get the info from the owners but best case would be they want the baby. It would also be nice to know for sure when her due date is so you don't have to try to guess! Since there is a market for bred mares, would there be the option of trading her back to the sale barn for another horse?
Her hormones might also be causing you to not see the real Flicka - some horses (just like humans) can be real jerks when bred. They can be cranky and not ride the way they do when open. Maybe some of your earlier under saddle issues can be explained by this and after she's weaned this baby she'll be a different animal?
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Post by Kit on Jan 20, 2016 16:05:54 GMT -5
Kit, I can't be.ieve your mare! She looks normal to me! LOL I know! She retained her placenta, so we had the vet out right away. He looks at her, looks at the baby, and asked if we're sure this is the horse that foaled.
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Post by Marci on Jan 20, 2016 16:55:39 GMT -5
Things will look brighter after the 1 year mark. Its the build up that sucks so badly. Then its a shock that its just one more day. I can understand not wanting a foal, I know I sure wouldn't welcome one from Shadow right now. But I embrace that everything has a reason. We might never know the why but there is a reason why it has to happen just as it is. And that is a good point, I know I sold one horse in foal that I thought had missed. Luckily her new owners were happy about the expected foal. i couldn't buy her back at the time, but wasn't offered at any rate. But perhaps they do want her foal. Then its a win win for them, and you.
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Post by snelson on Jan 20, 2016 18:44:03 GMT -5
That is a lot on your plate. And such an emotional time to have to deal with something else unexpected. As much fun as a foal is, it is extremely stressful when you were not planning it nor want to pay board on it. Hopefully it is something her old owners are wanting. And at least you know for sure and can make plans. Sounds like the barn owner is really great. The twh mare that my daughter bought to ride....super super quiet and so very sweet is making me think she may be bred also. Not an ideal situation and I cannot afford more than the 3 I have. She was skin and bones (really a 2 at the most on the scale) when she got here. She did have a belly which seemed odd but thought she just needed some probiotics. Well she has had a full round of them and really has done a great job of gaining weight. She has almost filled in her backbone but her belly has just gotten bigger....and when I fed her today I thumped on her by her flank and felt little "kicks". Not like my other horses where you can feel big movement in the gut but more like a flutter kick about 3 of them. Just one of those gut feelings. Hope I am wrong. I am not going to call the vet out for a special trip but will have him check her next time he is out. She is healthy and I am feeding her well enough for a broodmare in order to get her weight back up. But a baby is not needed in my barn either
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Post by Jenni on Jan 21, 2016 9:13:24 GMT -5
snelson - a friend of mine thought her mare didn't take and sold her on payments to a person she knew. The person quit making payments and then one day in late February called and said "you better come get this mare before she dies". She had apparently run out of hay a few weeks earlier. The mare was skin and bones but had a little belly. My friend started feeding her up to get her back to weight and started to get that same feeling that the mare was actually bred. Since she had bred her she knew when the mare was supposed to foal. I think she got her back about 3 months before she was due but that mare held onto that baby a full month past her due date and even then the foal was small but healthy.
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Post by ride4fun on Jan 21, 2016 10:40:17 GMT -5
I would caution against keeping Flicka thinking she'll be great once she foals. We had *one* mare when I was a kid that was a better ride with a foal nursing, easy keeper earth mother type that was lazy generally and had more pep when nursing. But with a horse that you are already struggling to feel a connection and trust them, having their attention focused on the foal is likely to make things worse (I had one of the worst rides of my life on a nursing mare I was silly enough to take to a show); and waiting till foal is weaned is a lot of time and board money on a maybe.
This may be god's way of nudging you to sell Flicka. Afterwards the BO maybe could hook you up with someone who wants to get a part lease on a good solid trail horse, maybe there is someone with a 'husband horse' that they'd love to have someone ride during the week and even want to ride with you on their main horse or a young woman is off to college and isn't ready to sell but would love to have someone pay at least part of the board on her horse.
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Post by Jenni on Jan 21, 2016 12:33:35 GMT -5
This seems so timely for you Yip. It is the video for Reba McIntyre's new song which she sang at her father's funeral but I think it speaks to anyone who has suffered loss. It's shot on her family ranch and that is her mother in the video. We just passed the 9th anniversary of my FIL's passing. 2007 was a bad year as we also lost my grandma, stepgrandpa, and grandma in law before June of that same year. www.rollingstone.com/music/news/see-reba-mcentires-moving-just-like-them-horses-video-20160119ps watch it somewhere that you can cry...
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Post by snelson on Jan 21, 2016 14:42:40 GMT -5
Jenni...I just saw that video yesterday, it will make your heart hurt. I hate when people don't take care of a horse. Why did that person even think they should get a horse?? I sold one of my Arabian mares on payments and was very very lucky that the girl took excellent care of her and loved her like she should. Your poor friend, I imagine she beat her self up over taking that risk. Glad everything turned out okay in the end. My daughters mare is the quietest mare. She is a bit pushy on the ground but has learned that she does not get to go through the door or the gate before me or at the same time as me unless I send her ahead of me. But absolutely nothing spooks her. I will have them in the barn and my other two are snorting and standing on tippy toes and Margo calmly eats and may perk her ears when there is something that may be of interest. I dragged the water tank through the barn the other day and my two were snorting at me and Margo just put her head over the gate and watched....which is how she also acts under saddle. Exactly what I wanted for my daughter. It would be sad if she was bred and she couldn't ride her this spring or couldn't ride out of the arena. She wants to trail ride...and I know what it's like trying to take baby along and mom getting worried. Lexi is a good rider but I don't think she is good enough to pony a baby. Sorry YIP for the thread hijack
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Post by Jenni on Jan 21, 2016 14:57:40 GMT -5
I don't know about making my heart hurt. I found it more comforting - a loved one telling you to open the gate and let them run free and not to suffer in your sorrow for their loss because they would always be there. Could even apply to letting an animal go.
here are the lyrics "Just Like Them Horses"
She held him close, then she kissed his face He said it just has to be this way Yours is the heart I'll always keep I'm not gone even if I leave
If you love me, don't you be afraid To look in my eyes and open up the gate Then watch me ride beneath a newborn sun Just like them horses When it's time to run
He said, Chockie Mountain is calling me Gonna take a walk up where I can see Turn and face that western wind Oh, and I'll be home again
If you love me, don't you be afraid To look in my eyes and open up the gate Then watch me ride beneath a newborn sun Just like them horses When it's time to run
Oh, just like them horses
She held his hand, he took one last breath Then she walked out to the front porch step Stared at the sky, tears on her face And she swore she could hear him say
If you love me, don't you be afraid To look in my eyes and open up the gate Then watch me ride beneath a newborn sun Just like them horses When it's time to run
Just like them horses When it's time to run When it's time to run When it's time to run
Now it's time to run
Just like them horses, ooh Just like them horses Oh, now it's time to run...
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Post by Frostym on Jan 25, 2016 21:58:08 GMT -5
Yip, I'm sorry to hear about the complications in your life. Marci wrote great advice to you. I'm 6 and 1/2 years out from bidding my DH good-bye for now. Hang in there, sweet friend. Being a widow does get more bearable. It takes time. Have you had any counseling and/or grief groups? I did both; they helped a lot. Here's something else that helped me when I thought I was going to lose it from the unbearable grief. It's a method of accupressure and emotional directions. It's free.Go to the Home Page and look on the left side. It will tell you where to click to get started. www.eftuniverse.com/sh404sef-custom-content/_404_It won't clog up your email or send you any spam. It will just help you, hopefully Most of all this is time to reconnect with your spirituality. Jesus promises us, "I will never leave you or forsake." Put your life into His hands and you find endless comfort. (((HUGS))). PM me anytime if it would help to talk.
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Post by Yip on Feb 5, 2016 22:40:40 GMT -5
Thank you Frosty. I'll go there and look. I appreciate all of you.
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