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Post by Yip on Jan 18, 2016 13:14:19 GMT -5
Jenni, Marci, anyone on FB can see the other 3 pics from my Timeling page. Go to my photo albums and the one of Flicka should be very easy to find.
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Post by Jenni on Jan 18, 2016 14:52:08 GMT -5
I will check them out later.
Usually people are asking for baby jungles in hopes of a foal but in your case I will hope for something else - and hopefully that something else is not serious / easily fixed.
On the other hand... wouldn't your baby darling just be over the moon to have a foal....
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Post by Marci on Jan 18, 2016 17:29:35 GMT -5
I can't find either one of the photos in your albums....Or on your timeline. Sigh. Tomorrow you will know one way or another. Hope its just too much hay in her gut.
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Post by Kit on Jan 18, 2016 22:05:02 GMT -5
I agree with Jenni. She does look pregnant. The biggest changes come the last 3 months, with most in the last 6-8 weeks. And then every mare is different. Some mares don't look pregnant until right before they foal, others looks huge months before foaling. This was one of my mares, she foaled her 3rd foal about 5 day after this photo was taken, she was 15 years old. Darn it! I thought I had a picture of Jackie (Murphys mom) just before she foaled, to compare the two mares, but I can't find one.
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Post by Jenni on Jan 19, 2016 9:20:45 GMT -5
I had a palomino mare years ago that I tried to breed for 2 years. 1st year nothing, second year I tried again but the day before the vet was coming to do a preg check she was "showing off" to the geldings in the pasture so I cancelled the check. She stayed at my friends over the winter because she used her as a trail horse at her riding stable. She was a stout little 14 hand foundation QH. They had round bales so when she got big and round no one thought any different. Memorial Day weekend is a busy weekend for the stable and that mare went round and round with customers like normal. A couple days later my friend said - I think that mare is bred, sure enough she dropped a colt about 2 weeks later.
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Post by kerryc on Jan 19, 2016 15:04:16 GMT -5
My mare didn't bag up until a bit less that 2 weeks before she foaled. It was her first time.
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Post by DorothyB on Jan 19, 2016 16:07:28 GMT -5
waiting . . .
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Post by Yip on Jan 19, 2016 21:25:49 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to be a grandma. Prob. about the end of May. A new little horse life is forming right now, and I should be happy, but I'm crying.
In 15 days it will be the first anniversayr of Chuck's "going home. Everything I do to try to be happy backfires. Nothing is ever easy. Why does every single thing have to be difficult? ĂˆVERY single thing!
I am living on 1/4 of the mo. income I'm used to. I'm ok but I'm trying to be prudent while still trying to be happy, incl. the horses. I thought having a twh for trails would make me happier, but now I'm really unhappy. I can't board 3 horses. I don't see how I can keep & foal Flicka, but if I sell her, I'll never see her baby. I've never been around a foal before, much less of my own mare. I'm so conflicted, but I can't see any happy ending, no matter what I do.
Yes, Camden would be over the Moon seeing a foal. I bought her a bunch of Schleich horses & their horse stable for Christmas and that's about all she plays with here. She is matching up the 2 sets of mares & their foals, and making conversations between them. And the moms kiss their foals & say goodbye, as if leaving them to go to work. I told her Flicka was going to have a baby and she said, "WHY?" Then she asked if Cookie was having a baby too. Kids!
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Post by Marci on Jan 19, 2016 22:38:59 GMT -5
I found that the weeks leading up to the firsts is the hardest. Grief is the hardest work you will ever do. Its hard, its painful. Sometimes so painful your not sure how you can make it through another day. But its also a learning experience you learn about yourself. I know at first I thought it was something I get through and when I reach that other shore it won't hurt anymore. Its not true, you still hurt, but its more muted. I pushed myself hard into mourning, thinking if I did it hard it would get over faster. Did that right into a stress heart attack. I don't recommend it. Things I used to love to do, I don't anymore. To be honest, I don't care if I ride my horse again. Not that I don't get pleasure from her its just different now. I spent 2 1/2 years in counseling. It really helped. (I had 3 different counselors as they kept leaving. The last one was someone who lost her husband, she was quitting because she was moving to go live with her boyfriend-gave me hope of finding love) Then once a week I went to grief group too. It was strange how being with other widows, crying, and laughing with them (and we usually ended up laughing at something by the end of the hour)Just left me feeling lighter inside somehow. If the first one doesn't agree with you keep looking for one that does. Hospice usually has one. And there is no time limit of grieving, we had people who were quite a few years out. They usually help the newbies the most. Some only came a few times and felt good enough to go on with life. its ok to hurt, its ok to feel everything your feeling, there is no wrong way to grieve. And happy isn't something you do, its something you feel. I learned while staying at Kerrys (way too long at Kerrys) that if you can't do something about where your at (such as we are widows) its best to be thankful for what we do have, and that we did have them in our lives. And one thing I try to do is to stop saying HAVE TO, I replace those words with GET TO. Its funny how the very words change how I feel. Now I get to go feed horses 2 times a day instead of have to. (well unless I am sick and its raining like today them its drag myself to it because I HAVE TO. LOL Its funny though how joy has slowly crept back into my life. One tiny step at a time. And I look around at my life 5 years later and although I miss Mark, I am pretty darn happy. But too I guess I decide everyday to be happy. (fake it til you make it?) Your granddaughter Camden sounds adorable. How like a child to think that. LOL As for paying for the extra horse when the time comes it will work itself out. And perhaps this little gift foal will bring the joy back for you? I would never have thought 5 years after Marks death I wold still have a horse, or that as bills arise somehow the money appears. Like for my van. Caddy was not doing well but I checked out the unclaimed funds in oregon state and there was money from something in Marks name, with me as beneficiary. From an insurance company. Far as I knew he had no life insurance, it had been cancelled due to us being too broke to pay for it. All I knew was it was over 100. Well in the end it was 3500, enough to buy a decent used van. (That I LOVE) Caddy went to my mechanic, he was going to get her going and sell her. Well it turned out to be expensive and he barely broke even. But I didn't have to deal with it so I was happy. If its meant to happen it will. I know on the other side they are watching out for us. Finagling deals in our favor. LOL Be kind and gentle with yourself and if you feel sad then cry, scream, rant, rave. Do what it takes then let it go. Like a wave let it wash over you and stand back up. You never know when them sneaker waves are coming. But always be true to you. Funny thing is writing like this helps me. LOL Oh yes, writing letters to our loved ones or texts helps too. Ceremony helps. I talk to Marks pictures all the time. My 5 year was a few days ago, it didn't wipe me out. But I did feel it. Kind of a deep saddness and longing that will only be filled when I join him. In time in time, I still have stuff to finish here I guess. Like you do. ((((HuGS)))) Hopefully this little one will be a gift of joy.
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Post by Kit on Jan 20, 2016 0:20:07 GMT -5
Well, the good news is, you know what's "wrong".
Honestly, what I would do, is try to sell Flicka as a 2 in 1 package. Then you can concentrate more on Cookie, which could go a LONG ways in helping her attitude. You said yourself that you haven't bonded with Flicka. So, by selling her, you wouldn't have to deal with an unwanted foal and their unwanted expenses. And you'll free up time, money, and stress factors, by only having one horse.
Good luck whatever you decide!
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Post by Yip on Jan 20, 2016 0:54:05 GMT -5
Kit, that's what I'm thinking. I would have worked with Flicka till Spring & tried her on a trail. Right now in our relationship, I wouldn't trust her on a trail. I need to simplify. And I hadn't thought about it, but Cookie's attitude has changed in the past several months. Maybe Flicka is at the root of that.
Marci, there is so much there to think about. Thank you for taking the time to search your soul and write it all out. I'll reply later when I can do it justice.
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Post by ride4fun on Jan 20, 2016 1:09:08 GMT -5
((HUGS)) You don't have to figure out instantly what to do with Flicka. You won't be paying more board for a few months. This can sit on the back burner while you get through your memorials.
You wanted a smooth trail horse not a chance to raise a foal so its understandable to feel like ARRGGHH right now. Possibly you can network and find someone with a trail horse who finds themselves sidelined from riding for awhile and loves playing with foals who would do some kind of feed lease exchange; and selling is an option.
I'm not sure still what your worst fear was on the initial post, but I thought it was laminitis or other chronic lameness. Pregnancy is not a lameness, some horses seem more uncomfortable with it, but most can be ridden lightly almost right up to foaling just like Jenni's mare they thought had not settled. It is an extra obstruction to getting into a groove with the new horse but not like having to put her on stall rest.
* well half of what I wrote is off track after reading your last post that showed up while I was composing. So ((HUGS)). Selling is a perfectly good option.
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Post by Jenni on Jan 20, 2016 11:09:03 GMT -5
Before you post her sale ad think about this... It's entirely possible that the previous owners tried to breed her and, like my mare above, thought she hadn't taken so they decided to sell her. Is there any way you can contact them and see if this was a planned breeding? If they find out she actually is in foal they might want to buy her or the foal back or could at least give you the stallion info so that the foal (or 2 in 1 package) would be more saleable.
This has happened several times to people I have known - sell or buy a horse that is supposed to be open but suddenly next spring "tada"! In one case my friend was able to get the registration info and get the baby registered, another they bought the foal back, other cases the new owner just kept the extra "surprise" baby.
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Post by Yip on Jan 20, 2016 14:44:10 GMT -5
Kit, I can't be.ieve your mare! She looks normal to me!
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Post by Yip on Jan 20, 2016 14:56:13 GMT -5
Jenni, the sale BO is working to get info for me. If there's cooperation and Flicka was accidentally or intent bred to a twh or ssh, we may be able to get stud info from those orgs. That would be best case scenario & baby could be registered.
Thank you for mentioning a planned breeding that they thought didn't take. I hadn't thought of that. I think (but I'm not sure why) they owned Flicka for a long time. Maybe they would want her back or at least baby.
The sale BO says there is a market in winter for bred mares due to foal in Spring. Some people just don't want the hassle of stud fees, trial & miss, etc. and look for bred mares where the hassle and unknowns are already over. In any case, she'll help all she can to resolve this.
I really want to be happy, whatever it takes. If there are no more vet bills till baby arrives, I wouldn't have to worry about extra board till then. Ugh, I just need things simplified! Everything has to turn complicated & that is the stress I cannot handle.
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