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Post by RideNSlide on Oct 14, 2005 23:37:39 GMT -5
I ask because my old coach is having Rod come out and take some perfoemance pictures for her website. He has a really nice, fancy, EXPENSIVE camera that he uses for work (he's a sports editor/photographer for 3 different newspapers), this will be his first horse-shoot. He will be giving her the images she likes burned onto a disc... should he charge a flat fee for the whole works and then additional per picture, just per picture, etc etc???
Thanks!
-Britt
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Post by Mary Ann on Oct 15, 2005 5:44:56 GMT -5
Actually, I don't think he should give her the discs unless he's not going to charge anything for developing, making prints, etc.
I've dealt with two kinds of photographers. One uses a 35mm camera and shoots a gazillion rolls, and then sends me proofs. They're stamped PROOFS on the front, so they can't be reproduced without their originals. They're all numbered, so can tell him a number (like B16, which means second roll, sixteenth frame) and choose what size I want them to be, and go from there.
The only guy with digital I ever dealt with had his entire setup there at the show. He took pics, and then went to his booth and printed out a page of proofs on to one single page. Then I could choose which I wanted and what sizes. He then printed them out for me on photographic papers and we settled up. It was kewl; shake and bake!
If Rod just hands someone a disc, they can upload to someplace like Shutterfly and make their own prints of his work however they like. He loses control of his work. Unless he prices for the disc and nothing more, he loses. And I'd think he'd want to retain copies, so he can use them for examples of his work.
Many photographers charge a trip fee, a flat fee to get out there and shoot, and then a print fee for what you like. They'll prep you by telling you to be observant of backgrounds, light angles for these backgrounds at whichever time of day it's been agreed he'd be there, etc. They ask about the color of the horse and the color of the backgrounds, and whether they want conformation shots (like for stallions offering breeding) or action shots (like for performance horses). Also, he should caution them as to their attire; some outfits are going to look really goofy, and can cause problems with the light. An all white shirt next to a black horse can be a problem if you're going to do a head shot together. You have to choose accordingly. Show attire often looks best.
I wish Rod luck on this venture!
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Post by Newfygirl on Oct 15, 2005 8:29:56 GMT -5
I work for a professional photographer. She will offer the disc as a choice. She does charge something like $200 and then they can have the copyright and all to do whatever they want with the photos. She switched entirely to digital this year. It costs nearly nothing for processing - except I do the color correcting and artwork on them and there is a charge for that. the discs are so cheap they're practically disposable. They're less than .50 a piece. Oh, and when she does sell the disc/copyright, she does keep a copy on disc for herself - and, for a back up in case the client loses, breaks, or whatever the original disc. Digital photography is cheap and the quality is just as good if not better than film. Processing costs are less, photographers make more. They can shoot more so the client gets more out of it too.
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Post by Newfygirl on Oct 15, 2005 8:32:13 GMT -5
Oh- another thing...We use a professional lab for processing. Clients can't get the same quality of color and archival qualities at drugstore labs. We generally do artwork on the photos before they get the disc. she will also digitally sign them. That way if they do end up on shutterfly or whatever, its free advertising for her!  Check out her wedding images. www.caylorphoto.com (can I do that?) |
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Post by cynthia on Oct 15, 2005 17:42:51 GMT -5
He should get in touch with the Professional Equine Photographers Network. They used to have an e-group at Yahoo (I was a member). When I went to check on it, this is what I found. Description The Equine Photographers list will be closed to further posting as of 11/27/04. This list will now be a read only/announcement list for Equine Photographers Network related news and events. In an effort to focus our mission, discussions and outreach for equine photography we have moved EPNet communications to the new forum: www.equinephotographers.org/4um/ We offer information and benefit listings on the membership levels at www.equinephotographers.org/join.php A free 30 day General Member Trial is available to the new forum www.equinephotographers.org/4um/ Our directory for Professional Equine Photographers will remain at www.equinephotographers.net/ The EPNet News is a free publication of the Network that offers tips, image links, network announcements and inspiration. Sign up for the newsletter here www.equinephotographers.net/ I was lurker there for a long time. I can tell you that Mary Ann is RIGHT!!! No disc unless she pays oodles for it. He should also be sure to watermark his photos. He should charge a fee for coming out and taking the pictures, and charge for each print. If she wants to use a picture for a website, she should pay a fee for each picture used. The last show that I bought pictures at charged $40. for an 8x10. It was a digital camera. The photographer was www.donstine.com I just looked at his website and noticed that his fees have gone up. Hope that this helps. |
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Post by Nancy C on Oct 15, 2005 18:28:20 GMT -5
I am currently working for a Professional horse photographer (Harold Campton)
He charges $39 for an 8.5 x 11 photo (includes any small editing that needs to be done *my job*)
CD's are $99 per photo.
He does not do photo shoots at peoples places that I know of (he lost a leg to diabetes a few years ago) I do know a friend that does photo shoots at peoples farms -- $250 fee for the shoot, plus a per picture fee.
Mr Campton does not charge extra for signing a release to use a picture on the web or in an ad. He is a real down to earth guy that has been in the business for a LONG time. He was the photographer for the World Show and Congress for 25 years (I forget if it was APHA or AQHA) He taught a lot of the photographers out there including KC Montgomery (doing the APHA world show now).
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Post by sayago06 on Apr 12, 2017 3:40:55 GMT -5
Have Port Macquarie Photographer for equine photography. He is very skilled photographer and is quite famous too. Just in love with his photography work. He took lovely pictures of my horses. They look simply stunning and very glad to see his professional work. |
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Post by kerryc on Apr 12, 2017 15:58:16 GMT -5
This is a 12 year old thread. Have Port Macquarie Photographer for equine photography. He is very skilled photographer and is quite famous too. Just in love with his photography work. He took lovely pictures of my horses. They look simply stunning and very glad to see his professional work. |
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Check out her wedding images. 
