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Post by Yip on Mar 14, 2006 18:35:08 GMT -5
I am thinking about plain landscape timbers or the square white vinly *rails* for vinyl picket fences. I will use square so they won't roll, and later I'd like to lay them on top of cement blocks for jumping practice. Any other ideas?
How wide?
I would think 8' would be overkill.
6" might still be pretty long for my little pen and might be heavy in wood.
Is 4' too narrow? I don't believe I'd have trouble keeping Cookie straight over 4'ers.
How many is *not enough*? How many is *good*?
What would be a more standard size, and what are *your* trot poles made of, and how many do you have?
Cookie has already been well trained in this by Syd, but it's all new to me. I plan to ask the kids to build me some cavaletti for my birthday in June.
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Post by DorothyB on Mar 14, 2006 18:51:01 GMT -5
Not an expert here, but . . .
I would NOT use the vinyl - too light weight and easy to move if she knocks it and also too easy to break.
Where I take lessons we use something that looks like the landscape timbers that are NOT the big square ones. They have VERY rounded corners and are painted white. I would think four would be plenty.
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Post by Yip on Mar 14, 2006 19:00:57 GMT -5
Dorothy, are you talking about the difference between landscape timbers and railroad ties?
I can't pick up a railroad tie on a bet, which is why I was considering timbers.
Is there something else *like* timbers but not? I would go to Lowes or Home Depot to buy them, I suppose.
I think you're probably right about plastic being too light.
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Post by Newfygirl on Mar 14, 2006 19:02:52 GMT -5
The barn where I used to board had pvc poles for ground poles. I really liked them. The main thing was that they were lightweight and easy to move.
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Post by RideNSlide on Mar 14, 2006 19:06:04 GMT -5
I used PVC poles, but you can also pick up landscaping ties as trot poles, too,if you want more weight...
-Britt
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Post by Kit on Mar 14, 2006 19:25:55 GMT -5
I use landscape timbers. I stay away from PVC, as it can become brittle over time, and when it breaks, there are sharp edges. I believe they are 6' which is plenty.
I use anywhere from 2 when I'm just starting a horse, up to 8 or more, set in various patterns for a more advanced horse.
You didn't ask for spacing, but typically ground poles are spaced 3' - 3'6" for trotting.
When I was doing a lot of arena trail, I would drill a hole in the end of my landscape timbers and insert a short dowel thru the hole, into the ground. Kept them from being moved if a horse hit them. I did that more for back-thrus than trot-overs tho.
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Post by Marci on Mar 14, 2006 19:27:42 GMT -5
You could try just plain old 4x4's I could see PVC working but then it could shatter and make sharp ends to do damage if it was hit wrong. Plus the PVC wouldn't be heavy enough to make knocking them down a bad thing to the horse, heck wouldn't be able to feel them Plus its harder to paint them different colors.
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Post by Mary Ann on Mar 14, 2006 19:54:34 GMT -5
English horses use trot poles at 4' to 4'6", and canter poles are at 12'. This encourages them to make the distances between fences, which are normally set up in 12' increments. A bounce is 12', an in and out is 24', a two stride is 36', yada yada. (Remember you have to have room for the apex of the jump to be at the 6' point.) Ponies are given a bit of leeway and the distances are shortened for pony classes. The best material is a round 4" wooden fence post. PVC is okay for schooling but isn't legal for shows, and as others said, it can be brittle and a bit dangerous over time. But it's lightweight and easy to tote around. For shows, it's usually best to have 10' long poles, as they're harder for a horse to run out of. But for schooling purposes, eight footers are fine, and are cheaper to buy. Go to your local farm supply store and buy some pressure treated wooden fence posts. They'll last for years. That's my.02.  |
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Post by Mary Ann on Mar 14, 2006 19:57:46 GMT -5
Oh, and however many you have, you'll want more. Same with jump standards. I have some of those white plastic blocks, and you can't have enough of those, either. A normal way to go is to start out with a single one, and work up slowly to about five. You can vary the pattern, skipping some but keeping them out at 4' intervals. Then you can try the 12 footers at canter. Then you two point over them, and keep your eyes up. You make grids of them, and then add Xs and little oxers, logs, etc. It's more fun than you would ever believe.
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Post by Jenni on Mar 14, 2006 20:28:42 GMT -5
I have the cheap landscape timbers- the ones that a lot of people make split rail decorative fences out of. I have had them about 5 years and left them outside 24/7 since I got them. A couple of them are just now starting to rot and will need to be replaced. The ones that are going bad are the ones I left in the pasture and the horses chewed on. I got them on sale for $2.22 each and believe I have 8-10 of them. I set them up in all sorts of patterns to go over, through, around, etc - both mounted and in hand. I also use them to hold down all 4 sides of a tarp when I am practicing walking a horse over to make sure a corner doesn't blow up / tangle in the horses legs. I think the ones I have are 8 foot long. They could easily be cut smaller for different patterns. You can see them in the background on this pic. This was during the in-hand trail "class" at my summer school program last year. Chance and the girl had just walked over them on their way to the tarp crossing.  |
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Post by Yip on Mar 16, 2006 13:45:59 GMT -5
Thank you everyone. My next question was going to be about spacing, but you already answered it!
Jenni, that is such a precious picture. I just love Chance.
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Post by Mary Ann on Mar 16, 2006 14:39:43 GMT -5
Ick. I look back at my response, and it looks as if I was saying Kit was wrong. She's not. You have to adjust the spacing to the stride of the horse, and of course you want to encourage them to reach out and step deep, especially with their hind legs. You start from where they can start at. The four foot thing is a structural part of doing gridwork. This way you can either trot or canter a grid easily. Sorry, Kit.  |
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Post by Kit on Mar 16, 2006 19:01:06 GMT -5
I knew what you meant. The 3' - 3'6" is trail course spacing. I used to set up a lot of trail courses, and that's the only spacing I could remember.
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