Nutrena vs Triple crown...

[LoriB]

which one and why?

I have a senior, who is an easy keeper (for now).

I was feeding purina senior, but he has had a mild choke twice. He has never had a problem with pellets, but I will not feed it anymore.

I was thinking of Nutrena Safe Choice, or Triple Crown Lite.

So, pros, cons?

[Reds]

I'd go with Triple Crown. Safe Choice has corn in it, and isn't really low starch. Plus, Nutrena uses a least-cost formula.

Triple Crown names the ingredients on the feed label.

[Sheryl]

My equine nutritionalist aquaintance told me that Nutrena has recently changed their formulas and location of where they are milled. She is NOT recommending Nutrena right now, until the changes settle down and she has a chance to have analysis done. She does that regularly and kind of monitors what is going on with various key brands.

Like Reds, she is still advocating Triple Crown.

[DorothyB]

Those are my two main choices - I may switch to Triple Crown

[MJ]

What's the choice on a Ration Balancer then? I currently use the Nutrena one, has there been a change in it's formula also?

[Jenni]

Isn't safe choice pelleted? Or am I reading this wrong and you want to switch to pellets because of choke?

Is there a reason you are feeding senior? If he's still an easy keeper I wonder if you could just feed a regular feed? I didn't feed senior feed to my old girl until she started dropping weight.

I've never fed the senior but have been feeding Nutrena Triumph 12 for 5 years. I like that it has a higher fat percentage than other brands available to me. I originally bought it because I had a horse that needed weight and wanted to increase calories with fat instead of tons of grain. I stuck with it because I found that all my horses looked a lot better on about 1/3 of the feed.

It is not my horses main source of nurtition though and at this time they only get a "sympathy" amount or a couple handfuls to carry supplements.

[LoriB]

I went with the TC lite.

Jenni, I don't mind a pelleted food at all. It was the Purina SR I objected to. He has never choked on anything but that. Then again, it becomes hard as a rock in the cold, and takes forever to break down even when wetting it.

He needs some extra nutrition, but not a lot of grain. Pasture and hay is his main source of nutrients. However, with the drought this year, hay is poor, and the pasture was not the best. So, he needs something additional.

Thanks!

[res]

My old guys are on Standlee alfalfa pellets, Standlee beet pulp pellets, and Progressive Grass ration balancer.

I had originally quit Purina Sr because it is too high in sugar for my Cushinoid horse. Then I found out that "complete" pellets can contain all sorts of things, as long as the nutritional quota is met. I don't want to feed floor sweepings...

[Reds]

Res, that's EXACTLY what "least cost method" means...they can use anything-even floor sweepings.


Like Triple Crown, Progressive names its ingredients.

An argument against that? "Some ingredients will vary from nutritional content from harvest to harvest."

So then, the manufacturer will change the *quantity* of each *named* ingredient to keep the percentages on the label the same.

[ponyexpress]

Reds, I'm not questioning you at all, but how do you know that Nutrena uses a least-cost method? How does the average consumer know that any company is not using that method?

Inquiring minds want to know......

[steph]

I'm late, but TC Lite is decent. I'm typically not a huge fan of Triple Crown though. It's a good feed--a good company--but I just never had fantastic results with their products and chose others over it because of that.

With that said, if those were my choices, they do have a good supplement (TC 30 or 12). and the Lite is good.

For Nutrena (now I haven't used/researched it in some time) but have used the Lite Balance in the past with excellent results. Safechoice has a relatively high NSC content (25-27% range I believe) so that turns me off of it, especially how they market it--I believe it's misleading. My belief is easy keepers (especially) just don't need that high. I always had to watch that with my mare because I think she had IR tendacies as she was an air fern and NSC's were not her friend.

With all of this said--I believe you *need* to feed about 4 lbs of TC Lite a day to get the "good" out of the feed. If you can't come close to this amount--look into a Ration Balancer--(or the supplements-- TC 30 or 12 --) you may spend more initially, but you feed a lot less and get the good out of every single drop.

Hope the TC Lite works well for him.

[stephanie]

I love Triple Crown and feed it whenever I can get it. They've just impressed me over the years with the quality, talking to the reps at trade shows, and the results I've gotten, especially when I've boarded at facilities that didn't feed as good of quality hay as I would prefer and I needed a complete feed.

[Reds]

PE, if you read the feed label on Nutrena feed, it'll read phrases such as "Products" and "By products" which allows for them to substitute fiber sources as they need to, based on cost and, they'll say, quality. Let's say they'll use beet pulp this time, but rice hulls next time for fiber. They'll use Soybean meal this time for protein, but alfalfa meal next time.

One of "my" companies has labels that read the same way, however strongly promote that they do NOT use least cost recipes, and say on the bag "Gauranteed Consistency" which means they'll alter the amounts of, say, SBM versus beet pulp, to match the percentages of nutrients guaranteed on the label, but they won't flat out substitute ingredients that weren't used in previous batches.

Nutrena doesn't say that.

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