This is input...not meant to be negative....

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OK, so Newfygirl is giving up soda and I support her decision for her.
Others won't eat ff-sf pudding because it tastes like mud (or whatever) others won't eat breads because of white flours or diet breads because they are OH so icky. Others only whole natural foods because the rest is bad for you. The point I'm trying to make is...we are ALL on a board trying to lose weight. So while we may have different tastes then others, whatever we have been doing isn't working. Maybe instead of being so insistent on voicing negative opinions of some things, just make note of saying the way we like to do things. Or things we prefer. Instead of insulting or at least making it sound insulting to those who....can't afford to buy the "cream". Or like "mud"

I dunno, seems like we take so many things away for our health and then everything stays the same anyway. Really. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to lose the weight and I'll do whatever it takes in support and camaraderie to help all of you.

Support doesn't have to be opinionated. It can just be support. ;D

Lisa

[Mary Ann]

I agree; support can just be support. I don't like white bread but you do. I don't like ff pudding but you do. I support your right to find what works best for you. Because regardless, it doesn't matter if it's 'right' or 'wrong' if you can't integrate it into your lifestyle.

Me disliking white bread is not a judgment of you liking it, and is not intended as such. It's just a *me* statement.

[Newfygirl]

I'll admit I like white bread. I like the spongy squishy soft wonder bread. I like pretty much EVERY kind of bread! LOL!

[LoriB]

Support doesn't have to be opinionated. It can just be support.

I have not seen any negative opinions, only input of different things.

No one has said not to eat fat free food, or not to eat sugar free.

No one has said their way is better than someone elses.

I think it is great to have all these different opinions.

So while we may have different tastes then others, whatever we have been doing isn't working

Exactly!

That is why it is so great to hear all the different things people are doing. We can all pick and choose what to try and change to see if it makes an effect.

Losing the weight is the easy part. Not going back to the old habits so that we can KEEP it off is the hard part.

I am sure most of us have yo yoed up and down throughout the years.


It seems that the trick is really and truly to find the positive changes that not only secure the weight loss, but that are things to live with for life.

That is where all the great input from the board comes in.

That is my opinion anyway. Anyone is free to discard it in any way they wish.

[DorothyB]

Lisa,

I totally understand what you are saying. So far, I haven't seen a problem here. I like hearing / reading others thoughts & opinions - especially when backed up by reasons. It makes me stop & think about my choices. I agree that we need to be careful to be supportive of any changes, but I think comments about how our personal choices are different is fine.

Actually the lack of judgement, coupled with the excellent information and various bits of advice, are the reasons I like this whole board.

[Deleted]

I like when it sticks to the roof of your mouth! I swear I have heard more people say that's the gross part..but...mmmmmm! I don't eat white bread anymore...I've been reprogrammed I guess. :/ But, the whitewheat, although not as "good" as whole grain for you, isn't too bad and the kids will eat it.

[Newfygirl]

I'll have to try that, lildot. Whitewheat - maybe I can even get the kids to eat it!

[KarenN]

I'm one of the white bread dislikers - but again, that's just me, no dis to anyone! My mom used to by Wonder bread all the time when we were growing up, and my dad and i would sneak off and buy whole grain bread. Made my mother crazy! She was just sure that Wonder bread was really good for us My sisters still love it, my kids had it for the first time at school and thought they were being poisoned - to each their own, and SUPPORT for us all!

[greymoya]

I like hearing the different opinions too, and I haven't taken anything as "negative" exactly, at lest not in a personal way. And I know that when i post something like how I hate basil, it's not meant as a negative comment towards those who do like basil.

I see your point, but i think it's hard to discuss an issue without discussing the good AND bad sides.

[Sheryl]

Lisa, what I am hearing from your post is that you have really felt indirectly and unintentionally criticized by remarks made here about food choices. Of course nobody meant it that way, but I can see how it can be interpeted as such!

For example, on the bread issue, I didn't really give any background. Bread is a trigger type food for me. I love it, and tend to prefer a rich densely flavored type bread - whole grain or fresh sourdough etc. I stopped eating alot of that because it was a million points ... and tended to be a trigger for me to overeat. So, I went through the eating diet bread phase. I did that so I could still feel like I had my bread! Then, I realized I didn't like that bread too much so I kind of stopped eating bread. Then, I discovered the Squirrelly bread, not because it was no processed flour, but because it is low point and tastes more like the rich whole grain breads that I liked. It struck me that I have been eating more and more of it, and I was thinking about if this made sense, nutritionally. SOOOO..... my long winded way of saying that without that background, it seemed like I might be looking down on people who dig wonder bread (the guys in my household for example).

My personal view is that people go through phases in what works for them and what they want. For a long time, I wanted easy portion control, no brainer type food. It was a lot of prepacked stuff. Then, I really got into exciting ways to prepare veggies. Then, I started moving into trying recipes - mostly comfort type foods made a bit more healthy. Because I do weight watchers, there is a group of us that swap ideas and new food finds so it is ever evolving and we make it kind of fun.

Honestly, I think it will be hard for me to remember to refrain from making negative remarks if somebody starts talking about the health benefits of liver and onions , but it is never meant as a slam on another person, just about what I find palatable or some new find that I am excited about!

[KarenN]

There are NO health benefits to Liver and Onions P E R I O D

[DorothyB]

I LOVE liver & onions!! Yummy! Don't eat it often since I don't know how to cook it. (I've also heard conflicting reports on whether it is good or terrible for you.)

[KarenN]

Well, my opinion is purely MY OWN - I figure if I can't keep it down because of the sheer smell, then there can't be any health bensfits, right?? My sis, OTHO, loves the stuff - I always gave her my portion, and she'd make a sandwich out of it the next day *SHUDDER*

LOL

[MJ]

When I was a kid, this dates me, Liver and Onions was prescribed to girls for the iron benefit when they started. However, since then, it has been found that organ meats have a high amount of cholesterol. I think it is all in what school of thought you go by. One may need iron and not have high cholesterol so it wouldn't be a bad food, that is if you can stomach it. LOL

MJ

[Newfygirl]

What about shrimp? I have heard that they are good for you because they provide iron, but then I heard that the cholesteral is high. So...is it just moderation in everything?